Before we begin there is one thing we must agree on. We must
agree that you will use your mind, your unbiased mind. This is
the main condition. If you agree to this, let’s continue.
Look around and let’s pick something to explore...
Let us look at the ocean...
Think of going to the ocean and imagine how deep it is. Go into this deep ocean. Go further into the ocean, to the bottom. Come with me all the way to the bottom of the ocean. Here we will find thousands of creatures without eyes that live in this deep place without light. Let us go up a little higher and we will find different creatures than the ones we saw on the ocean floor. Different creatures with different properties and different ways of living, thousands of various creatures swimming in the deep oceans, some discovered many are not. They know how to live, where to go and what to eat. Let us go higher still. We will find fish, whales and other creatures that are here in this ocean.
Now, let us go to the land...
Look around you and you will find this wonderful earth. There are huge mountains that you can see and it has different shapes, colors and sizes. On the land do you see all species of animals…sheep, snakes, insects, birds and more?
Each animal lives in and is adapted to its own environment. They know where to look for food and when and where to migrate. Look at the birds flying in the sky with wings spread but nothing to hold them up. Who gave them this ability to balance in mid air with no strings to hold them?
What about plants?
There are thousands of plants with different shapes and properties.
How amazing it is to find them present in the same soil yet producing different kinds of fruits and flowers. All these plants know which mineral to extract from the soil and which mineral it doesn’t need. And look at this soil!!! The red earth and the yellow earth and the brown earth are all in different forms.
Now let’s think of ourselves and
make an inspection of what we see...
Have you ever really looked at yourself in detail? Will you raise your hand in front of your eyes? Look at your hand. Can you see the clearly defined lines on your palm? Now look beyond the skin. You will find blood, muscles, arteries and bones. Blood travels through the arteries carrying certain material for your survival. Let’s move to another part of our body. Have you ever thought about how your heart is working? How many times it beats per day. It pumps the blood around the body without getting tired, without needing rest, without needing to stop for a break.
Have you thought about your brain?
It contains millions of neurons, which are connected to each other with billions of connections. The brain is divided into decision centers. Each center is responsible for doing a specific task.
Now let’s imagine outer space and think about traveling through space...
Let us go farther out into space. We will see the moon, the sun, thousands of suns. The suns are stars, millions of stars. Come. Come with me and we will go further again. All that we have seen is in our galaxy. We are now moving out of our galaxy. There is another galaxy. There are two, three, four…there are thousands of galaxies. What a huge universe we are in! Have you ever thought about how vast the universe really is?
Who created all of these things?
Who could have created each of these things?
Yes, He is the one who created the universe.
And what about the earth?
What is the earth?
It is here, this very small dot.
Can you see it?
Can you imagine that the One who created all of this, cannot do something?
Of course not! The right mind is saying no.
He is able to do anything.
He is able to do anything He wants.
Can you imagine that the One who created all theses things does not know something. Can you? The right mind tells us no. He knows everything. There is nothing that He does not know. Can you image or believe that God repents on something he did? To repent means that someone does something with out knowing what it will lead to or what the reason is. This means that there is a lack of information or a lack of knowledge. Can you imagine that God would be afraid from something? The Creator, the Most Powerful the Most Knowledgeable? I think the unbiased mind will say no. God does not repent and God is not afraid.
So do we agree on these four points?
1. God is able to do anything and everything He wants.
2. God knows everything.
3. God does not repent on something He did.
4. God is not afraid from anything or anyone.
There are many religions. Let’s look at them and their views of deity...
Go back to this small dot there this small earth that we just left. Let us go back where the earth is. This is a very, very small planet. And let us find out what men are saying about God.
Let us go to India...
We will find some people considering the cow as a sacred animal and some are raising it to the level of God and are considering it their Lord. Some people actually worship it. If they are asked why the cow is their God, they will state that it is because it gives them milk, meat and it helps them cultivate the land. So the cow is their God. When we ask them why? They say they were raised to believe that way. Other people believe a mouse is their Lord because the mouse is intelligent and eats everything. Why is this? It is because that is what they were raised to believe. Hindus are famous for their caste system, which is an ancient division of society into which people are born and may never leave. The Hindu caste system—or varna as it is known in Sanskrit—contains five main divisions. They include:
Brahmins – highest class of authority- priests
Ksatriyas – upper class of authority-warriors
Vaisyas – middles class of authority-merchants
Sudras – lower class of authority-the servants
Untouchables (now renamed Harijan, or Children of God)
There is much discrimination between the casts. The highest levels of authority are the Brahmas and the lowest are the untouchables. They don’t share similar opportunities or chances and the lower casts are looked down upon and mistreated by the higher.
Let us see
Jews see God as tight fisted, poor and giving us our nourishment day to day. Can you believe that the creator is tight fisted? According to the Jewish religion, after God created the universe, He sat to rest. God got bored while resting and therefore created the whale. And every Saturday he play with. For this reason, it is forbidden for them to fish on Saturdays. Jews also believe they are the children of God and that they are the chosen ones and that everyone else must be their slaves.
Now let’s move to the Christian faith...
...Bearing in mind that the intention here is not to criticize or to hurt but rather to point out facts present in the Bible. Therefore, please have patience and use your unbiased mind. First we will look at Genesis chapter 32.
Click on the URL after this paragraph. It will take you to a passage that I would like you to read and consider. When you finish reading, please come back to continue our conversation. For those of you who can’t get to that website, I have included the text of the passage below.
And be sure to say, “Your servant Jacob is coming behind us.” For he thought, "I will pacify him with these gifts I am sending on ahead; later, when I see him, perhaps he will receive me."
So Jacob's gifts went on ahead of him, but he himself spent the night in the camp.
That night Jacob got up and took his two wives, his two maidservants and his eleven sons and crossed the ford of the Jabbok.
After he had sent them across the stream, he sent over all his possessions.
So Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak.
When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacob's hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the man.
Then the man said, "Let me go, for it is daybreak." But Jacob replied, "I will not let you go unless you bless me."
The man asked him, "What is your name?" "Jacob," he answered.
Then the man said, "Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with men and have overcome."
Jacob said, "Please tell me your name." But he replied, "Why do you ask my name?" Then he blessed him there.
So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, "It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared."
The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel, and he was limping because of his hip.
Therefore to this day the
Israelites do not eat the tendon attached to the socket of the
hip, because the socket of Jacob's hip was touched near the
Now that you have read this passage can you imagine it?
This is the God, the All Powerful, losing against a human being or even cant get him for a complete night?
God is strong and certainly able to face his own creation.
Until now, no one has been able to answer this question. In verse 30, Jacob said he saw God face to face. He did not say an angel of God or anything else.
**After Adam ate from the forbidden tree, he ran away from God and hid and God was searching for him. Think again with your unbiased mind. The same mind you used at the beginning. How could God, who created the tiniest creatures from the deepest ocean to the highest sky, fail to know where one of his creatures are and have to go and look for him? Here is the text that says so. Let us go to the text in Geneses 3
God was calling to Adam, where are you? And Adam was hiding. He asked Adam this question.
Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden.
the LORD God called to the man, "Where are you?"
He answered, "I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid." And he said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?"
The man said, "The woman you put here with me--she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it."
Then the Lord God said to the woman, "What is this you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate."
So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, "Cursed are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life.
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."
To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."
To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, `You must not eat of it,' "Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat of it all the days of your life.
It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field.
By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return."
Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living.
The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them.
Lord God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing
good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and
take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."
**Another point that puts doubt on God is in this verse in Babylon.
They said that some people built a tower so high to reach the heaven. So He made them separate so they could not understand each other. This way they were not able to build a tower. This is show in the following site: Genesis 11 vs 1-9. In this place it sounds like God feared their strengths.
Now the whole world had one language and a common speech.
As men moved eastward, they found a plain in Shinar and settled there.
They said to each other, "Come, let's make bricks and bake them thoroughly." They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar.
Then they said, "Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves and not be scattered over the face of the whole earth."
But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower that the men were building.
The Lord said, "If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other."
So the Lord scattered them from
there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city.
That is why it was called Babel --because there the Lord confused the language of the whole world. From there the Lord scattered them over the face of the whole earth.
**Another section of the Bible that is confusing and brings doubt is where it states God has attributes like mankind such as regretting, grieving and repenting. See the link below where it states these things in the Bible.
When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose.
Then the Lord said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal ; his days will be a hundred and twenty years."
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
The Lord saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.
The Lord was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain.
So the Lord
said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face
of the earth--men and animals, and creatures that move along the
ground, and birds of the air--for I am grieved that I have made
How can God, who is the all knowing of what was and what is to be, be grieved and regret something He did?
Other parts of the Bible that speak of God repenting include Genesis 6:6,7 and Exodus 32:14
You may find the above passages in these connecting web sights.
Following are passages from the Bible that criticize Gods’ ability to choose appropriate prophets and good people. The same God who created these prophets seems to not know their hearts. God fails to choose good people to spread His word as the bible says.
**First let’s read the Bible text about Lot.
Then Lot went up out of Zoar and dwelt in the mountains, and his two daughters were with him; for he was afraid to dwell in Zoar. And he and his two daughters dwelt in a cave. Now the firstborn said to the younger, "Our father is old, and there is no man on the earth to come in to us as is the custom of all the earth. Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve the lineage of our father." So they made their father drink wine that night. And the firstborn went in and lay with her father, and he did not know when she lay down or when she arose.
It happened on the next day that the firstborn said to the younger, "Indeed I lay with my father last night; let us make him drink wine tonight also, and you go in and lie with him, that we may preserve the lineage of our father." Then they made their father drink wine that night also. And the younger arose and lay with him, and he did not know when she lay down or when she arose.
Thus both the daughters of Lot were with child by their father. The firstborn bore a son and called his name Moab; he is the father of the Moabites to this day.
After Lot left the town that God destroyed because of its people’s sins, his two daughters gave him wine and slept with Lot and got impregnated by him.
Can you imagine this happening with your own daughter and your husband, your mother and her father? To bring a child from their own father? You might tell me people make mistakes, yes they do but doesn’t God know better than to choose people to make such great sins and be a role model for others in His holy book? Can this really be Gods word?
**Now let’s read the Bible text regarding
David in 2 Samuel Chapter 11.
Then it happened one evening that David arose from his bed and walked on the roof of the king's house. And from the roof he saw a woman bathing, and the woman was very beautiful to behold. So David sent and inquired about the woman. And someone said, "Is this not Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittite?" Then David sent messengers, and took her; and she came to him, and he lay with her, for she was cleansed from her impurity; and she returned to her house. And the woman conceived; so she sent and told David, and said, "I am with child."
Then David sent to Joab, saying, "Send me Uriah the Hittite." And Joab sent Uriah to David. 7When Uriah had come to him, David asked how Joab was doing, and how the people were doing, and how the war prospered. 8And David said to Uriah, "Go down to your house and wash your feet." So Uriah departed from the king's house, and a gift of food from the king followed him. But Uriah slept at the door of the king's house with all the servants of his lord, and did not go down to his house. So when they told David, saying, "Uriah did not go down to his house," David said to Uriah, "Did you not come from a journey? Why did you not go down to your house?"
And Uriah said to
David, "The ark and Israel and Judah are dwelling in tents, and
my lord Joab and the servants of my lord are encamped in the
open fields. Shall I then go to my house to eat and drink, and
to lie with my wife? As you live, and as your soul lives, I will
not do this thing."
Then David said to Uriah, "Wait here today also, and tomorrow I will let you depart." So Uriah remained in Jerusalem that day and the next. Now when David called him, he ate and drank before him; and he made him drunk. And at evening he went out to lie on his bed with the servants of his lord, but he did not go down to his house.
In the morning it happened that David wrote a letter to Joab and sent it by the hand of Uriah. And he wrote in the letter, saying, "Set Uriah in the forefront of the hottest battle, and retreat from him, that he may be struck down and die."
Here we read that David falls in love with the wife of one of his men. Due to this, he sends the man on a mission, and places him at the forefront of the battle to die. This way he can be alone with that mans wife. This is another similar case of a good man practicing low forms of deceit to perform a great sin. I’ll leave the commenting and the thoughts for you.
**Now here is a claim about prophet Noah, the prophet that God chose to continue His creation through after Adam. We read about Noah in Genesis chapter 9:21-26.
Then he drank of the wine and was drunk, and became uncovered in his tent. And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brothers outside. But Shem and Japheth took a garment, laid it on both their shoulders, and went backward and covered the nakedness of their father. Their faces were turned away, and they did not see their father's nakedness.
So Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done to him. Then he said:
"Cursed be Canaan; A servant of servants He shall be to his brethren."
Prophet Noah gets drunk and his private parts are revealed and when one of his sons tries to cover him. Noah gets angry and makes him a slave for the rest of his brothers and sisters.
Can you imagine a sane person doing
this today! Would a sensible and reasonable person enslave his
own son for such a thing? No, it’s hard to imagine. What about a
prophet chosen by God? How can this be? Explore your mind and
**Here’s another fact from the Bible, Solomon’s songs.
I’d like you to read this to yourself or maybe out loud. Imagine praying with this. Imagine the young children listening to it. Imagine these words to be the words of God. Or are they?
Solomons song 4
1. How beautiful you are, my darling! Oh, how beautiful! Your eyes behind your veil are doves. Your hair is like a flock of goats descending from Mount Gilead.
2. Your teeth are like a flock of sheep just shorn, coming up from the washing. Each has its twin; not one of them is alone.
3. Your lips are like a scarlet ribbon; your mouth is lovely. Your temples behind your veil are like the halves of a pomegranate.
4. Your neck is like the tower of David, built with elegance ; on it hang a thousand shields, all of them shields of warriors.
5. Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twin fawns of a gazelle that browse among the lilies.
6. Until the day breaks and the shadows flee, I will go to the mountain of myrrh and to the hill of incense.
7. All beautiful you are, my darling; there is no flaw in you.
8. Come with me from Lebanon, my bride, come with me from Lebanon. Descend from the crest of Amana, from the top of Senir, the summit of Hermon, from the lions' dens and the mountain haunts of the leopards.
9. You have stolen my heart, my sister, my bride; you have stolen my heart with one glance of your eyes, with one jewel of your necklace.
10. How delightful is your love, my sister, my bride! How much more pleasing is your love than wine, and the fragrance of your perfume than any spice!
11. Your lips drop sweetness as the honeycomb, my bride; milk and honey are under your tongue. The fragrance of your garments is like that of Lebanon.
Song of Solomon 7
How beautiful are thy feet with shoes, O prince's daughter! the joints of thy thighs are like jewels, the work of the hands of a cunning workman.
Thy navel is like a round goblet, which wanteth not liquor: thy belly is like an heap of wheat set about with lilies.
Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins.
Thy neck is as a tower of ivory; thine eyes like the fishpools in Heshbon, by the gate of Bathrabbim: thy nose is as the tower of Lebanon which looketh toward Damascus.
Thine head upon thee is like Carmel, and the hair of thine head like purple; the king is held in the galleries.
How fair and how pleasant art thou, O
love, for delights!
This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy breasts to clusters of grapes.
I said, I will go up to the palm tree, I will take hold of the boughs thereof: now also thy breasts shall be as clusters of the vine, and the smell of thy nose like apples;
And the roof of thy mouth like the best wine for my beloved, that goeth down sweetly, causing the lips of those that are asleep to speak.
I am my beloved's, and his desire is toward me.
Come, my beloved, let us go forth into the field; let us lodge in the villages.
Let us get up early to the vineyards; let us see if the vine flourish, whether the tender grape appear, and the pomegranates bud forth: there will I give thee my loves.
The mandrakes give a smell, and at our gates are all manner of pleasant fruits, new and old, which I have laid up for thee, O my beloved.
Song of Solomon 8
O that thou wert as my brother, that sucked the breasts of my mother! when I should find thee without, I would kiss thee; yea, I should not be despised.
I would lead thee, and bring thee into my mother's house, who would instruct me: I would cause thee to drink of spiced wine of the juice of my pomegranate.
His left hand should be under my head, and his right hand should embrace me.
I charge you, O daughters of Jerusalem, that ye stir not up, nor awake my love, until he please.
Who is this that cometh up from the wilderness, leaning upon her beloved? I raised thee up under the apple tree: there thy mother brought thee forth: there she brought thee forth that bare thee.
Set me as a seal upon thine heart, as a seal upon thine arm: for love is strong as death; jealousy is cruel as the grave: the coals thereof are coals of fire, which hath a most vehement flame.
Many waters cannot quench love, neither can the floods drown it: if a man would give all the substance of his house for love, it would utterly be contemned.
We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts: what shall we do for our sister in the day when she shall be spoken for?
If she be a wall, we will build upon her a palace of silver: and if she be a door, we will inclose her with boards of cedar.
I am a wall, and my breasts like towers: then was I in his eyes as one that found favour.
Solomon had a vineyard at Baalhamon; he let out the vineyard unto keepers; every one for the fruit thereof was to bring a thousand pieces of silver.
My vineyard, which is mine, is before me: thou, O Solomon, must have a thousand, and those that keep the fruit thereof two hundred.
Thou that dwellest in the gardens, the companions hearken to thy voice: cause me to hear it.
Make haste, my beloved, and be thou like to a roe or to a young hart upon the mountains of spices
There’s more to this in the following site…a Christian site…
Why is it that this is accepted by millions of people to be right? Can you imagine a good person nowadays acting the way the prophet Noah was acting? Or David? What about Lot?
Imagine this in your life now. Imagine the bishop of your church sleeping with his daughters. Imagine the priest doing this. Now imagine the pope acting in this manner. It’s difficult to accept or even think of persons in a high moral and religious position to perform such acts. We are speaking of people that are not prophets or chosen by God for a certain message. So how is it possible to accept that God’s chosen people would do this? How can it be accepted that God failed to choose His own messengers?
Lets go to the final point to conclude all this. You have been patient so please bear with me through the rest.
I’ve tried to show you the power of God by traveling through His creation. You must see that God needs no help or partner to rule. He just has to say something will be and it will be. We humans are just a mere point in this life compared to the greater creatures and oceans and skies. We are not as complicated as many think we are, for our creation is much simpler in size and form than the creation of the galaxies and stars.
This might seem like a fact, yet the Christians claim that God went into a woman’s womb, grew between flesh, blood and bones, was born, ate food and grew and even answered the call of nature.
According to the bible and the
Christian belief, Jesus was crucified to forgive the sins of the
creation. Does this mean that if someone committed a sin, they
would be automatically forgiven? If the answer is yes, this
means that everyone is free to do what he or she wants
regardless of the consequences because they won’t be held
accountable. If the answer is no, anyone committing a sin has to
go back and repent to God to forgive them. Why then was Jesus
Some believe that Jesus is the son of God because God created Jesus with no father. Didn’t God create Adam without any father and mother? Didn’t God created Eve from Adam with no mother? Others claim that Jesus is God because he has some miracles like bringing the dead back to life. Prophet Moses also had the ability to bring the dead back to life in addition to other miracles like transforming the stick into a snake and dividing the sea into two parts. These are miracles that God gave to His prophets to prove that they are messengers and prophets from Him.
Finally, all these facts are stated. Please sit back and think about them. Please remember that the intention is never to offend but rather to point out information that would lead to the truth. On the Day of Judgment, no one will be held accountable for your beliefs and practices in front of God but yourself. No community, no family, no friends, just yourself. God has given you the gift of mind to see the facts, so now it’s your choice to decide whether to use it or not.
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